Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon

Looks like LEaker-Kun was right for once. Still doubt 90% of everything else he said but I'm curious!

Also, Exeggutor ftw.
 
I assume this thread can be used for discussion now that the game's out, eep!

I haven't left Melemele yet, but so far I really am enjoying Sun! I'm very happy they kept in character customization but I have a feeling I'll very minimally change my default outfit. xD

The new pokemon I've seen so far on the first island, I really like nearly all of them! I also like the music in Melemele Meadow. (Route 3). Reminds me of a mix between Pikmin music and the soundtrack for Super Mario Galaxy! might just be me though, haha!

I really like Cutiefly and the cheerleading bird! Super cute, but I know there's one that will take the cake for me... hehe
 
I'm loving Pokemon Sun so far!  I love the Pokemon Refresh thingy.. I've always wanted to pet pokemons :D

I'm already at the 4th island and just cant stop playing...my eyes are dying. xD
 
I haven't had the chance to complete the second island unfortunately (I'm at the third captain too!). I love Pokemon Refresh I can brush my Pokemon!!! I'm glad I'm not tormented by PokePuff minigames this time around. Pokebeans are rather crunchy for looking so soft and smushy though...

I LOVE STUFFUL AND WILL PROTECT IT AT ALL COSTS!!!!
 
Beat the game in 3 days, caught a bunch of Ultra-Beasts, and now working on the Pokedex(tm)

Pokemon Refresh: Pokemon Amie 2.0! I kinda miss the mini games, but oh well...
 
I just finished the story  :cry: I'm not good at handling endings. But wow I really liked everything about the game! I'm glad this was the first poke game I played T^T
And now im off to catch em all B)
 
Nothing confirmed on any other that the starters already given mega evolution but it is a good game. No more gyms though
 
Glad you guys are enjoying the game! I'm having a blast and already beaten the main story. Now I'm just collecting Pokemon in order to build my team for the Pokemon Challenge lol.

What was you guys favorite bits of the game?
 
Loved the fact that it's more challenging but not too hard for new comers. I personally love the music. It's my absolute favorite in the entire franchise, beating out B2/W2. Another thing I love about Sumo is the fact that they made it a bit easier to get your perfect team with a mix of old and new Pokemon. I made my team purely Alolan Pokemon but I had a blast playing through the game.
 
ShineCero said:
Drago said:
You two missed the entire point of my post or just didn't bother to actually read it. The first thing I said was make the gym leaders competent. After that, I said make them a higher level because they should be due to their status.

Nowhere in my response implies that your message didn't talk about competent of gym leaders. It's clear that I was only referring to your point on higher level gym leaders and expressed my disagreement. Then I further my position that the only problem is just the AI itself--agreeing with your point on competence--because that actually matters in terms of challenge for the long run.

Furthermore-- Gym Leaders are already higher than trainers you meet prior to them -- and if you prepared, it doesn't matter anyways unless you deliberately down-scaled grinding in some fashion. Just because some trainer(s) in other towns are stronger than Gym Leaders doesn't mean anything. Heck, you have trainers stronger than Elite Four (i.e Benga). Even the Pokemon Games established that Gym Leaders isn't necessarily being assigned too it or being the strongest -- it can be passed down.

Edit: If anything, if "high level status for Gym Leaders" is that apparent, they could have easily just have the gym leaders being 10 levels ahead of you regardless -- meaning it's fixed to be higher than yours regardless of grinding you do.

Just dumping off the older Pokemon because they're old is a great way to irritate a lot of people. I never said to make every Pokemon competitively viable. I actually said the opposite and that I didn't feel they should have to.

Never said you did. 

I'm alright with adding more Pokemon as long as they show the same care to every single family in some way. They can even add in new items to counter some of these effects if they want. Just give them something. They've shown the ability to do with some Pokemon.

  • Generation 2 with Baby Pokes/Egg moves. 
  • Generation 3 with the Natures and Abilities. 
  • Generation 4 with the Physical/Special Split + Further Evolutions for some Pokémon. 
  • Generation 5 with Hidden abilities. 
  • Generation 6 with Mega-Evolution. 
  • Adding items such as Eviolite for fans who dislike Generation 4 Evolutions of Generation 1/2/3 Pokémon
  • Change the base stats of Pokémon (which was practically unthinkable until now) for an hand full of Pokémon
  • Given Pokemon at least one new move -whether from tutoring/breeding/level-up/events as each new generation debuts
  • Inclusion of Fairies that older Pokémon benefited from--such as Mawile.
GameFreak has clearly shown to give Pokémon something in each generation. Just because one doesn't have a kickass ability or gets something that "hinders" or doesn't benefit them (in other words, it isn't as seen as useful in fans' eyes) -- despite that GameFreak thinking it fits them-- doesn't mean they don't care about their creation. Ironically enough, Rotom-formes is popular in the competitive field, especially the infamous OU presenter, Rotom-Wash. Ledian is clearly a reference to Pulseman. 

In addition, as I stated before, your post is points more-so towards the competitive community. You're right about GameFreak's inability to care; they don't care about the metagame for the most part (although they expressed interest in doubles and their reasoning for making a fairy type) and when they do show interest-it has no impact on how they create Pokémon. They create Pokémon to be appealing for the audience to bond with, along with throwing in reference from mythos, lore and even meta examples of their previous games (Ledian-Pulseman)--they're not motivated to creating Pokémon to have something going for them -- especially when said Pokémon can have the good *insert here* but horrible *insert here* in fan's opinions and be considered "trash".

Right on the money :kek:

And I like how people are complaining that the game is "harder" despite wanting bitching about it. Guess GameFreak can't please anyone, huh?
 
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