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Let me reword my statement since you seem to have misunderstood it. The problem with USuMo is that it, the game ITSELF, is being released only a year AFTER the original. Unless this is a sequel (in which case why the fuck can they not just append a 2 to it?), then this is no good. Unless the game in and of itself has some major improvements that, for whatever goddamn reason, can't be added in a game patch, then it's ok. A few forms and new pokemon won't just make the cut, especially since it shouldn't be that hard to patch those in.
That first link refers EXCLUSIVELY to purchasing literal Pokemon, and as such has no relation to the topic whatsoever. As for the second link, that's from a four year old article in reference to XY when it was new. A lot can change in four years, and with the lack of transparency we see from GF regarding their actual production process, we don't really know what the hell they're exactly planning to do.
My argument still stands. You making judgement of a game that
no one has any idea of what it actually contains, how the story is going to be or anything of the sort and
not even out yet. You're jumping through towers of assumptions based on
little information over a twenty-second trailer. To determine that the game(s) is "no good" based off of that is unfounded. Just because it does not fit the merit of some fans' expectations is equally mind-blogging.
Third versions is a stable in the series for
twenty years and will continue to be the staple from thus far. It's like complaining that GameFreak makes two version of the same game with minor differences between them. Hell, there was a backlash against Black 2 and White 2 for this reason (and not being Pokemon Grey). There is no reason Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum to get a free pass because of "Well! They didn't have a way to update it!" when they can easily just simply make the next set of games or not withhold "content" for a third version. Same thing can be said for remakes.
This is standard for GameFreak with main-series Pokemon. No one should be surprise here. Furthermore, each third version always offer a different experience compare to the previous entries.
There was a reason why I added the first link into the topic to emphasized the idea that
any form of DLC will most likely not happen anytime soon. I can acknowledge that anything can change within 4 years, but it's clear that it isn't happening now and they have no plans for such at the moment. Furthermore, each third version always offered an different experience.
Hell, people were outright wanting Stars to be announced to be the supposed third version. Suppose that it was announced for the Switch. People would still complain even harder because now they have to buy a 300+ system and a "re-release" Sun and Moon games that could fall between 40-60 bucks
So again, how about wait until we actually get full-on information of Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon instead of crying "Freaking GameFreak! Taking muh money!"?
As I said earlier, it matters with the current fanbase. This is more than a little "troll lens flare" to censor out the important details of a NEW game, this is a small reveal trailer of what we can only currently assume is a rerelease of the RECENTLY released game. As for ORAS? That's still a "new" game, for lack of a better word. It's also something we wanted.
How can anyone just assumed that it's a "re-release" of a game, when there was clear differences in the new games? One has to sit there, watch the trailer and be all "whelp, nothing is changed here, so it's obviously a re-release of Sun and Moon!".
And why should remakes be an exception? I can wager an argument that ORAS has no reason to be made, ORAS megas, Primals and the Delta Episode can easily be patch through DLC for XY instead of being a "$40 game" and simply release R/S/E as VC. Same thing can easily be applied for D/P remakes. If remakes of a game can be considered new, then Ultra Sumo are considered the same.
If it were a third-party title we were talking about, this would be understandable. What you have to understand, however, is that we are talking about a first-party title, and a staple title at that. Hell, the Switch barely even had any titles that targeted children (Skylanders, that's it). For a company that prides themselves on their first-party titles moreso than Sony and MSoft, they haven't really tried to impress us on the Switch in regards to that. But of course, if they want to wait and see how they could make use of it (which I don't understand what they don't know about the switch to make use of it considering it's basically a more powerful standalone Wii-U tablet, which your second "no-DLC" link actually had Masuda saying that they would have reconsidered making core games on the Wii-U if it were portible.. Nintendo Switch much?), then I guess we'll wait and see what they come up with.
The one in bold have nothing to do with GameFreak - they only make main-series Pokemon games-nor The Pokemon Company, that falls on Nintendo. Once again, GameFreak never switch consoles in a current generation. If you are hoping for a main-series Pokemon game on a Switch, simply wait for Generation 8. This is the same argument that people had with Black 2 and White 2 was first announced for the Nintendo DS, rather than the 3DS. Literally nothing changes.
The consoles not having enough titles to appeal to children have no bearing in this argument. Furthermore, with the shortages of consoles stock, it would be incredibly stupid for GameFreak to transition to the Switch anyways.
Now of course, I'm not saying that the fanbase is justified in making a 1:1 scale Mt. Everest model out of salt, but I very much understand their disappointment that a rerelease of SuMo is what GF is going to have to offer. If anything, if USuMo does turn out to be the pile of disappointment the fans are making it out to be due to a lack of actual info, then I would personally then prefer that they had just held back for a year and focused on making their next product that will come after USuMo even better, so as to not piss off the fanbase even more. In regards to Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum, those are all given the ok since that was when there was no method of updating those games (especially the GB titles). USuMo, unless, as I mentioned earlier, has literally no means of getting these potential new features in without making a whole new game, shouldn't really need a WHOLE new cartridge.
On the other hand, however, if the theory that the map received a massive change (based on the symbol on Solgaleo and Lunala's heads resembling the island challenge amulet with a fractured pink piece turned into four other pieces and the fact that Akala has an active volcano as well as the fact that we've had volcanos erupt before [Cinnabar Island]) is true, then I'd be inclined to believe that the resulting changes would be too big for a patch/DLC.
So yeah, hopefully more details emerge that can at least show the game needs a whole fucking rerelease to contain these new things as opposed to being able to just update the game. I'm still rather disappointed that they'd let this saltstorm emerge, though.
Of course the fanbase is not justified for shitposting nonsense over a
baseless rumor. They have no one else to blame except for themselves for believing in some bullshit that never had any basis. GameFreak, The Pokemon Company and Nintendo are not responsible for fans who hype themselves over nothing and get angry because they did not get what they wanted. They were disappointed because they thought the game would be on the
Switch. They thought it would be
Diamond/Pearl Remakes. They thought it would be
Stars. This did not turned out to be the case and now they are angry because they did not get what THEY expected to have. It's the same shit when people were spewing rage when we got Black 2 and White 2 instead of Grey when it was first announced (and then 2 weeks later, had to clarified that it will have a new story because people, just as now, are shitting up a storm with assumptions).
People need to stop acting like they just gotten into Pokemon because they should know this is how GameFreak operates.
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It was revealed that a new Pokémon main series game is under development for the Nintendo Switch. The Pokémon Company has reconfirmed that this game will not be seen for more than a year.
And bam, there it is! All people needed to do is just be patience.
Anywho, corocoro scans had been released:
Nothing new, but there some information about Ultra Sun and Moon(basically saying, hey this exist kids!), and some information regarding 20th Movie Hat Ash-Pikahchu:
The first images from CoroCoro have leaked and have revealed the latest news on Sun & Moon. As always, do note that translations are preliminary while we work on them. In this issue, it confirms that Marshadow will be distributed with the movie on July 15th 2017 in Japan. It also reveals the first artwork for Marshadow's appearance when it uses its special moves, as well as the first official look at its Z-Move, Soul-Stealing 7-Star Strike, which is available through the Z-Crystal that comes with the distribution of Marshadow. It also reconfirms the Ho-Oh distribution happening via Serial Code in the magazine next month. In the page for the Pokémon arcade game, Pokémon Ga-Olé, it confirms that there will be a special disc for the "I Choose You" Cap Pikachu, a Pikachu wearing the cap that Ash wears in the new movie. However, it notes that you can scan this QR Code into Pokémon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon to get the Pikachu with this cap in the game. This variant of Pikachu is not currently available in Pokémon Sun & Moon. This promotional Ga-Olé disc is obtained when you go to see the movie. This works in a similar manner to the distribution of Magearna in Japan last year. We'll post the QR Code for the game when it comes out. International distribution methods for this new form remain unclear.
