General Nickelodeon Scandal (Sexual Predators)
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LoopyPanda
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Well, with Dan Schneider's allegations popping back up not even the day before this happened, you may as well retitle this thread to the General Nickelodeon Scandal thread! There's also the Loud House creator's allegations for harassment of female employees (if I remember right).
John and Dan are some major creeps.
John and Dan are some major creeps.
You're right. I change the title to reflect on the recent news. And yes, Chris Sarvino as outed for sexual harassment and remove from the show, studios and everything else. Won't be surprised if he was blacklisted from the animation industry at this point.
The problem I have is how some people tried to side-track their deplorable behaviors because they "did" something; over-exaggerations on their end, mind you.
Which brings into light: Where were the other employers about this issue? Why didn't none of them ever hope to stop this shit? Here's an detail account on Dan and his producers about the series of perversions done in their studio; Jamie Spears' disappearance from television is perhaps one of the biggest eye-openers out there.
The problem I have is how some people tried to side-track their deplorable behaviors because they "did" something; over-exaggerations on their end, mind you.
Which brings into light: Where were the other employers about this issue? Why didn't none of them ever hope to stop this shit? Here's an detail account on Dan and his producers about the series of perversions done in their studio; Jamie Spears' disappearance from television is perhaps one of the biggest eye-openers out there.
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Well, he's not the first Nick guy as you've all said. John K. has had nasty rumors floating around about him for years, everything from him being gay to him using homophobic slurs addressing employees to him being a raging misogynist. Guess you can add he's an alleged pedophile to the list too. So the accusation doesn't surprise me too much really, sadly. I love his work and he had a huge impact on animation so it's a shame to learn at least that he's probably not a very good person.
LoopyPanda
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Nick said:
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Edgy joke aside...
Typically I don't take Buzzfeed articles seriously, but with the abundance of photos between the girls and John K. uncomfortably close (ala Dan Schneider), I think I can reasonably conclude he's a little too into underage girls, especially if there are multiple people that worked at Spumco corroborating one of the girls's stories.
As for Dan Schneider, his behavior off-camera is documented in the form of online addons for iCarly and Victorious, but the Amanda Show contains behind the scenes bloopers as well that make things seem a little too comfy around the younger girls. His mildly creepy interactions with children are more documented, although the actresses involved do not openly speak out, most likely because these are their livelihoods and such a scandal against someone who was their 'boss' easily could take that away from them. I imagine a lot of young actors helped their families provide income, and perhaps their silence was forcibly bought.
Jamie Lynn Spears's abrupt cancellation of Zoey101 amid pregnancy rumors have an air of suspicious mystery behind it, considering that online, only Chase and the other guy appeared in the "reunion" clip in which Zoey's time capsule apparently is revealed. The girls in it, including Jamie and Victoria Justice, were not seen or even mentioned. In fact, Jamie faded into obscurity like everyone else, so it isn't exactly like she was too busy to do it.
Ariana Grande was on Victorious as well, and had a few clips on the DanWarp channel along with Victoria showcasing some... "gags" that involved feet... a lot.
Sadly, the idea of pedophiles being in the shadows of Hollywood isn't new. Even as far back as the early 1900s, it's something that lacks subtlety. For example, Shirley Temple's earlier acts as a toddler consisted of "Baby Burlesque" shows-- these are essentially toddlers cast to parody adult films/skits, and the imagery is not innocent in any way. If you feel like hating Hollywood execs, here's a part of a documentary I found regarding Shirley Temple's early career, which she has recounted before when she was an adult (I'll have to look for these interviews in particular seeing as they were filmed too):
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Personally, I recognize Shirley Temple most in that commercial for her Little Darling DVD collection that constantly aired year-round in the early 2000s in "spectacular remastered technicolor," I assume these were her later works and were not the Baby Burlesques since... I assume times changed in terms of what was marketable in recent decades.
The full doc's title: The Lolita Riddle: Nabokov and Shirley Temple (may edit if this is not the correct name, but you should be able to find all four parts on youtube).
It is a difficult situation to be involved with, considering people who have a status in Hollywood know who is a pedophile in Hollywood like an open secret, but these people have the money and power to keep you quiet.
Former Goonies actor, Corey Feldman, was stabbed in an attempted murder. He is openly against pedophile rings in Hollywood and is working to expose them, and believes he was targeted after a string of threats came his way recently. Source
So you either must anonymously discuss it, or keep your life as private as you can lest you make the wrong kinds of people angry.
JamesYTP said:
I mean, did he? He was pretty much a attempted has-been who barely got into 10 episodes before getting booted off of his own show. When he tried to make a "sequel/remake/reboot" in the form of Adult Party Cartoon, it dragged whatever "good" (and I'm using it LOOSELY here) the original cartoon had into the ground.
I wager that there were plentiful animators that made a significant impact of how animation works in the 90s than John K. Heck, you have Joe Murry who, in some ways, similar to John K in terms of "crude humor" in his cartoon, Rocko's Modern Life, but unlike John K, he went on and became an successful animator with little to no baggage carried with him (as of now).
Not trying to downplay anyone here, but I'm legitimately confused of why people think he made contributions to animations when everyone and their mother hated the guy in the animation world, aside from his legion of followers on his blog and few animators who also participated in his sick games.
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There is no escape....
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Different strokes for different folks, but this is not one of them. It bordering disgusting nature where these men target young girls in order to manipulate them for their own desires. Worst thing about this own ordeal that I feel there is a chance that John K is not the last of them; there are more creeps within the Studios (and Hollywood as a whole).
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ShineCero said:
Well, there were definitely people who were/are more successful in that regard than him, since as you say most in the animation world don't find that his talents outweigh the baggage that comes with him and this might very well be the last nail in the coffin for him as far as continuing his career. The impact was mainly that he demonstrated that you can have a hit cartoon that didn't have a toyline attached to it from day 1, in the 80s most cartoons had the toyline come first and then the creatives just had to work there show around that. Ren and Stimpy and to a lesser degree Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures really paved the way for Rocko's and a lot of what Nickelodeon would do after. I don't know that I'd call him THE biggest game changer of the era (I'd say Ralph Bakshi would get that honor, who basically started John K's career and a whole host of others...and incidentally even Bakshi apparently fired him multiple times). But he did make some huge contributions to the medium, but obviously, they weren't big enough contributions that they justified anyone keeping him employed for very long and I guess now we might have a better idea of why that is.
John K posted an apology a few months ago... and, wow... just, well, read it among yourselves:
Talk about a fucking yikes.
Talk about a fucking yikes.
LoopyPanda
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I couldn't stomach to finish the entire photoset. So much of it sounds like what a predator says to a child they're grooming into not telling their parents about what the predator did. The language here is so discomforting and it creeps me out just being a passerby reading it.
If you are not easily distraught by the subject matter, it becomes readily apparent why he was told not to publish it "as is".
Btw, is it me or are the Boo-boo and Yogi drawings a little off-putting out of context?
If you are not easily distraught by the subject matter, it becomes readily apparent why he was told not to publish it "as is".
Btw, is it me or are the Boo-boo and Yogi drawings a little off-putting out of context?