General Nickelodeon Scandal (Sexual Predators)

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The Disturbing Secret Behind An Iconic Cartoon


Robyn Byrd and Katie Rice were teenage Ren & Stimpy fans who wanted to make cartoons. They say they were preyed upon by the creator of the show, John Kricfalusi, who admitted to having had a 16-year-old girlfriend when approached by BuzzFeed News.

Robyn Byrd thought her plan was working when the letter from her hero arrived in the mail. It was 1994, and the 13-year-old had sent the creator of The Ren & Stimpy Show a video of herself talking about her drawings and the animation career she envisioned; she thought if she got the attention of the studio behind the hit Nickelodeon show, she might get a job there someday. John Kricfalusi’s effusive letter, Byrd said, seemed like the first step toward her dream.

She could hardly believe he’d responded. “I had built up these characters and this mythos of Ren & Stimpy in my head,” Byrd, now 37, told BuzzFeed News. “It was exciting.”

Soon, she said, she began receiving boxes of toys and art supplies from 39-year-old Kricfalusi, better known as John K. He helped her get her first AOL account, through which he convinced her he could help her become a great artist. He visited her at the trailer park where she lived in Tucson, Arizona. “I thought I was still his little cute friend,” she said. And then, when she was still in 11th grade, he flew her to Los Angeles to show her his studio and talk about her future. She said that on the same trip, in a room with a sliding glass door that led to his pool, he touched her genitals through her pajamas as she lay frozen on a blanket he’d placed on the floor. She was 16.

In the summer of 1997, before her senior year of high school, he flew her to Los Angeles again, where Byrd had an internship at Spumco, Kricfalusi’s studio, and lived with him as his 16-year-old girlfriend and intern. After finishing her senior year in Tucson, the tiny, dark-haired girl moved in with Kricfalusi permanently at age 17. She told herself that Kricfalusi was helping to launch her career; in the end, she fled animation to get away from him.

Since October, a national reckoning with sexual assault and harassment has not only felled dozens of prominent men, but also caused allegations made in the past to resurface. In some ways, the old transgressions are the most uncomfortable: They implicate not just the alleged abusers, but everyone who knew about the stories and chose to overlook them.


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Can't say I'm surprised about this. What the heck is going on at Nickelodeon?
 
Well, with Dan Schneider's allegations popping back up not even the day before this happened, you may as well retitle this thread to the General Nickelodeon Scandal thread! There's also the Loud House creator's allegations for harassment of female employees (if I remember right).

John and Dan are some major creeps.
 
You're right. I change the title to reflect on the recent news. And yes, Chris Sarvino as outed for sexual harassment and remove from the show, studios and everything else. Won't be surprised if he was blacklisted from the animation industry at this point.

The problem I have is how some people tried to side-track their deplorable behaviors because they "did" something; over-exaggerations on their end, mind you.

Which brings into light: Where were the other employers about this issue? Why didn't none of them ever hope to stop this shit? Here's an detail account on Dan and his producers about the series of perversions done in their studio; Jamie Spears' disappearance from television is perhaps one of the biggest eye-openers out there.
 
Well, he's not the first Nick guy as you've all said. John K. has had nasty rumors floating around about him for years, everything from him being gay to him using homophobic slurs addressing employees to him being a raging misogynist. Guess you can add he's an alleged pedophile to the list too. So the accusation doesn't surprise me too much really, sadly. I love his work and he had a huge impact on animation so it's a shame to learn at least that he's probably not a very good person.
 
Not to be rude, but please say the networks entire name, I think you can see why this bothers me... But seriously fuck those people.
 
Nick said:
Not to be rude, but please say the networks entire name, I think you can see why this bothers me... But seriously fuck those people.

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Edgy joke aside...


Typically I don't take Buzzfeed articles seriously, but with the abundance of photos between the girls and John K. uncomfortably close (ala Dan Schneider), I think I can reasonably conclude he's a little too into underage girls, especially if there are multiple people that worked at Spumco corroborating one of the girls's stories.

As for Dan Schneider, his behavior off-camera is documented in the form of online addons for iCarly and Victorious, but the Amanda Show contains behind the scenes bloopers as well that make things seem a little too comfy around the younger girls. His mildly creepy interactions with children are more documented, although the actresses involved do not openly speak out, most likely because these are their livelihoods and such a scandal against someone who was their 'boss' easily could take that away from them. I imagine a lot of young actors helped their families provide income, and perhaps their silence was forcibly bought.

Jamie Lynn Spears's abrupt cancellation of Zoey101 amid pregnancy rumors have an air of suspicious mystery behind it, considering that online, only Chase and the other guy appeared in the "reunion" clip in which Zoey's time capsule apparently is revealed. The girls in it, including Jamie and Victoria Justice, were not seen or even mentioned. In fact, Jamie faded into obscurity like everyone else, so it isn't exactly like she was too busy to do it.

Ariana Grande was on Victorious as well, and had a few clips on the DanWarp channel along with Victoria showcasing some... "gags" that involved feet... a lot. 
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Now, I don't care if people have feet fetishes, people argue even Quentin Tarantino is into pretty feet and shit, but I think it's crossing a very weird line when you bring your fetish to children's programming, or even preteen to teenagers (since they are still legally minors until they are 18 years old). If you look up the clip of Ariana Grande trying to fit her toe into her mouth for a skit on the DanWarp channel (it exists, but I advise you not to look it up, lest your recommended videos consist of feet vids), you will find open foot fetishists commenting right below it, getting plenty of upvotes that anyone scrolling will see. Not creepy at all!


Sadly, the idea of pedophiles being in the shadows of Hollywood isn't new. Even as far back as the early 1900s, it's something that lacks subtlety. For example, Shirley Temple's earlier acts as a toddler consisted of "Baby Burlesque" shows-- these are essentially toddlers cast to parody adult films/skits, and the imagery is not innocent in any way. If you feel like hating Hollywood execs, here's a part of a documentary I found regarding Shirley Temple's early career, which she has recounted before when she was an adult (I'll have to look for these interviews in particular seeing as they were filmed too):
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This is part 4 of a full documentary that is found with separate parts (the entire documentary focuses on different themes, this segment is just about Shirley).

Personally, I recognize Shirley Temple most in that commercial for her Little Darling DVD collection that constantly aired year-round in the early 2000s in "spectacular remastered technicolor," I assume these were her later works and were not the Baby Burlesques since... I assume times changed in terms of what was marketable in recent decades.

The full doc's title: The Lolita Riddle: Nabokov and Shirley Temple (may edit if this is not the correct name, but you should be able to find all four parts on youtube).


It is a difficult situation to be involved with, considering people who have a status in Hollywood know who is a pedophile in Hollywood like an open secret, but these people have the money and power to keep you quiet.
Former Goonies actor, Corey Feldman, was stabbed in an attempted murder. He is openly against pedophile rings in Hollywood and is working to expose them, and believes he was targeted after a string of threats came his way recently. Source
So you either must anonymously discuss it, or keep your life as private as you can lest you make the wrong kinds of people angry.
 
JamesYTP said:
Well, he's not the first Nick guy as you've all said. John K. has had nasty rumors floating around about him for years, everything from him being gay to him using homophobic slurs addressing employees to him being a raging misogynist.n Guess you can add he's an alleged pedophile to the list too. So the accusation doesn't surprise me too much really, sadly. I love his work and he had a huge impact on animation so it's a shame to learn at least that he's probably not a very good person.

I mean, did he? He was pretty much a attempted has-been who barely got into 10 episodes before getting booted off of his own show. When he tried to make a "sequel/remake/reboot" in the form of Adult Party Cartoon, it dragged whatever "good" (and I'm using it LOOSELY here) the original cartoon had into the ground. 

I wager that there were plentiful animators that made a significant impact of how animation works in the 90s than John K. Heck, you have Joe Murry who, in some ways, similar to John K in terms of "crude humor" in his cartoon, Rocko's Modern Life, but unlike John K, he went on and became an successful animator with little to no baggage carried with him (as of now). 

Not trying to downplay anyone here, but I'm legitimately confused of why people think he made contributions to animations when everyone and their mother hated the guy in the animation world, aside from his legion of followers on his blog and few animators who also participated in his sick games. 

Nick said:
Not to be rude, but please say the networks entire name, I think you can see why this bothers me... But seriously fuck those people.

There is no escape....

@"LoopyPanda" 

Different strokes for different folks, but this is not one of them. It bordering disgusting nature where these men target young girls in order to manipulate them for their own desires. Worst thing about this own ordeal that I feel there is a chance that John K is not the last of them; there are more creeps within the Studios (and Hollywood as a whole).
 
ShineCero said:
JamesYTP said:
Well, he's not the first Nick guy as you've all said. John K. has had nasty rumors floating around about him for years, everything from him being gay to him using homophobic slurs addressing employees to him being a raging misogynist.n Guess you can add he's an alleged pedophile to the list too. So the accusation doesn't surprise me too much really, sadly. I love his work and he had a huge impact on animation so it's a shame to learn at least that he's probably not a very good person.

I mean, did he? He was pretty much a attempted has-been who barely got into 10 episodes before getting booted off of his own show. When he tried to make a "sequel/remake/reboot" in the form of Adult Party Cartoon, it dragged whatever "good" (and I'm using it LOOSELY here) the original cartoon had into the ground. 

I wager that there were plentiful animators that made a significant impact of how animation works in the 90s than John K. Heck, you have Joe Murry who, in some ways, similar to John K in terms of "crude humor" in his cartoon, Rocko's Modern Life, but unlike John K, he went on and became an successful animator with little to no baggage carried with him (as of now). 

Not trying to downplay anyone here, but I'm legitimately confused of why people think he made contributions to animations when everyone and their mother hated the guy in the animation world, aside from his legion of followers on his blog and few animators who also participated in his sick games. 

Well, there were definitely people who were/are more successful in that regard than him, since as you say most in the animation world don't find that his talents outweigh the baggage that comes with him and this might very well be the last nail in the coffin for him as far as continuing his career. The impact was mainly that he demonstrated that you can have a hit cartoon that didn't have a toyline attached to it from day 1, in the 80s most cartoons had the toyline come first and then the creatives just had to work there show around that. Ren and Stimpy and to a lesser degree Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures really paved the way for Rocko's and a lot of what Nickelodeon would do after. I don't know that I'd call him THE biggest game changer of the era (I'd say Ralph Bakshi would get that honor, who basically started John K's career and a whole host of others...and incidentally even Bakshi apparently fired him multiple times). But he did make some huge contributions to the medium, but obviously, they weren't big enough contributions that they justified anyone keeping him employed for very long and I guess now we might have a better idea of why that is.
 
I couldn't stomach to finish the entire photoset. So much of it sounds like what a predator says to a child they're grooming into not telling their parents about what the predator did. The language here is so discomforting and it creeps me out just being a passerby reading it. 

If you are not easily distraught by the subject matter, it becomes readily apparent why he was told not to publish it "as is".


Btw, is it me or are the Boo-boo and Yogi drawings a little off-putting out of context?
 
LoopyPanda said:
I couldn't stomach to finish the entire photoset. So much of it sounds like what a predator says to a child they're grooming into not telling their parents about what the predator did. The language here is so discomforting and it creeps me out just being a passerby reading it. 

If you are not easily distraught by the subject matter, it becomes readily apparent why he was told not to publish it "as is".

Btw, is it me or are the Boo-boo and Yogi drawings a little off-putting out of context?

Right? I wouldn't be surprised if his lawyers were trying to grill his tiny head that this is probably not a good idea to post this right at the moment. It seems to be that they tried their best to edit his content, but John K is probably have his head so far up his ass that it was futile. 

I think that Boo-Boo drawing was from cartoon that appeared over and over on Adult Swim at one point. It was jarring and not in a good way.

The worst part about this whole ordeal? The fact that he posted a picture of himself and the victim. Talk about tone deaf to the highest caliber. Or maybe he just an damn idiot and just doesn't give a shit.
 
From the way he wrote his 'apology' letter to each girl, it seems he still thinks of them as children. Specifically, the same ones that were naive enough to let him groom them into doing so many repugnant things by dangling their dream of animating over their heads like a slimeball. He doesn't seem to understand they've matured beyond what he thinks they have and won't fall for his manipulations.

Unlike his fanboys, who seem to believe every lie he spoonfeeds them as part of his damage control.

Another extremely offensive aspect of this is that he plays the "I have a mental illness that I had no control of" card. Whether or not he actually has mental illness (does being a pedophile with all the creepy stuff he's done count as a disorder? idk yet), it's an additional guilt-trippy manipulative factor. Being ill in the mind does not absolve you of any wrongdoings you've done-- Especially ones of this magnitude. In fact, the fact he seems to know what he did was wrong but continues to make excuses for it is enough to show you he hasn't changed, nor has he gotten over being obsessed over them. (He conveniently forgot about the harassing messages he left Robin the week the Buzzfeed article came out).
 
That was scary...makes you wonder what was going through his head saying that shit in public. The whole letter might as well have said "I'm a creepy pedo, lock me up." I totally buy mental disorders being at play, but Bi-polar and ADHD don't really come to mind really that so much as sociopathy or even psychopathy do. It's like he really has no conscience at all, only reasoning I can think of. Only someone who really just doesn't understand right and wrong would ever think it's a good idea to pen an open letter romanticising his relationship with 2 underaged girls he's accused of stagetory raping. Scary shit...horrifying.
 
LoopyPanda said:
From the way he wrote his 'apology' letter to each girl, it seems he still thinks of them as children. Specifically, the same ones that were naive enough to let him groom them into doing so many repugnant things by dangling their dream of animating over their heads like a slimeball. He doesn't seem to understand they've matured beyond what he thinks they have and won't fall for his manipulations.

Unlike his fanboys, who seem to believe every lie he spoonfeeds them as part of his damage control.

Another extremely offensive aspect of this is that he plays the "I have a mental illness that I had no control of" card. Whether or not he actually has mental illness (does being a pedophile with all the creepy stuff he's done count as a disorder? idk yet), it's an additional guilt-trippy manipulative factor. Being ill in the mind does not absolve you of any wrongdoings you've done-- Especially ones of this magnitude. In fact, the fact he seems to know what he did was wrong but continues to make excuses for it is enough to show you he hasn't changed, nor has he gotten over being obsessed over them. (He conveniently forgot about the harassing messages he left Robin the week the Buzzfeed article came out).

JamesYTP said:
That was scary...makes you wonder what was going through his head saying that shit in public. The whole letter might as well have said "I'm a creepy pedo, lock me up." I totally buy mental disorders being at play, but Bi-polar and ADHD don't really come to mind reading that so much as sociopathy or even psychopathy do. It's like he really has no conscience at all, only reasoning I can think of. Only someone who really just doesn't understand right and wrong would ever think it's a good idea to pen an open letter romanticising his relationship with 2 underaged girls he's accused of stagetory raping. Scary shit...horrifying.

Agreed on both points.

It's jarring, no, it's almost Saturday Morning Cartoon level for someone to be that absentminded or oblivious to write that letter, stop, look at it and be all: "yup, this sounds perfect to me!"

What's more disgusting is the shit-flinging fans that haven't broke their ways after this incident. I mean, it's one thing to like his artwork or whatever, but this? How can anyone comment on this and be all "don't worry buddy, you're a great idol!". Either they're just as insane as he is, or they're desperately trying to justified their reasoning to like the guy and downplay his massive, massive faults.

What's worse is how he continues to shit on animators of the current era, "lol, yeah I kiddy did those girls, but remember guys, I AM THE SHIT, these guys, these "animator", are nothing. I broke boundaries, folks! Believe IT!" like some little ass kid.

The guy already tanked his career multiple times, but I think this was a nail to the deep, deep coffin he put himself in. If there's anything "chance" that these fanboys are hoping for his return or Nick to recognized Ren and Stimpy again, that's gone now.
 
Have you guys seen the recent videos by Alexa Nikolas? She'd talk about her experience with Zoey 101 and the reason why she was taken off the show. The revelations is pretty damning and I'm thoroughly disappointed in Victoria Justice.

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For those who are still following closely with the Nick Stars and the sandal, Jennette McCurdy discuss more details on why she's not returning to the show iCarly (or any role at all).

From deadline: Here's some highlights and the podcast is included as well.

In the February 24 episode of her fish out of water podcast, McCurdy spoke with Anna Faris about her experience as a child star and why she left the acting realm. McCurdy, who many know as iCarly’s Sam, said that she initially didn’t want to act but pursued it because of her mother.

“My mom put me in it when I was 6 and by sort of age, I guess, 10 or 11, I was the main financial support for my family. My family didn’t have a lot of money, and this was the way out, which I actually think was helpful in driving me to some degree of success,” McCurdy told the former Mom star.

While her mother’s death was a major factor in the decision to stop acting, McCurdy added that her childhood credits also contributed to her departure from the screen.

As Sam, the edgy best friend of Cosgrove’s Carly, McCurdy donned odd outfits and regularly pulled off puzzling stunts for both iCarly and Sam & Cat.

“I resent my career in a lot of ways. I feel so unfulfilled by the roles that I played and felt like it was the most just cheesy, embarrassing [experience],” she said.

McCurdy may have thrown in the towel for on-camera work, but she revealed she’s trying her hand at directing and writing, telling Faris that she created a one-woman show.

In addition, here some investigation regarding Jennette and Dan

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Not exactly related to Nickelodeon studio, but it involved one of the actors.

Drake Bell pleads guilty to attempted child endangerment, faces up to 2 years in prison. Bell allegedly engaged in an inappropriate chat with a 15 year old victim that "at times, was sexual in nature."

Though he initially pleaded not guilty, Bell, 34, has since agreed to a plea deal and said he was guilty of both charges during a virtual court appearance on Wednesday, according to a livestream of the hearing from local ABC affiliate News 5.

"My understanding is there's been a plea agreement reached where the defendant will plead guilty to count one attempted endangering children, a felony in the fourth degree [and] plead guilty to count two: disseminating matter harmful to juveniles, a misdemeanor the first degree," the judge began.

He later informed the Nickelodeon star, born Jared Bell, that attempted endangering children carries a sentence of anywhere from six to 18 months in prison in monthly increments and/or a fine of up to $5,000, though prison time is not mandatory. The second charge carries up to six months in jail and/or a fine of up to $1,000.


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New documentary dropped regarding the explicit sexual abuses and allegations happening in the studios. Looks like they hit almost every god damn point of how widespread it was
 
Wow! Just wow!!! And I though Nickelodeon was a great place for the kids. Guess I was wrong. Those terrible allegations bought out the worst of what was going on behind closed doors. So very sad.
 
Right? The toxic environment, the lack of protection from these children and the fact that they allowed a convict pedophile to continued to work elsewhere without so much as a background check shows how little care for these children. I feel terrible for these people affected by this. Possibly we may never know justice because you still have people defending these creeps.
 
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