I think the new episodes have already come out! Haven't seen it myself yet though. 
Digimon Adventure Tri
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I finally got around to watching it. It was nice! This time Mimi and Joe were the main attention point. I do wonder why Ken is suddenly bad again? He was a good guy in season 2 right?
I do wonder why Ken is suddenly bad again? He was a good guy in season 2 right?
The 3rd installment Kokuhaku/Confession came out recently. With Izzy and TK as main attention points!
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Oops, never get went into full thoughts onto this. Might as well start now.
Second episode was pretty much pointless drama that really shouldn't been emphasized. Perhaps, I'm being too harsh but episode 2 and 3 are nothing short of rushed products and poor development for the characters. I really don't understand the whole reboot thing.
I'm becoming dreaded of what's to come of Episode 4.
Second episode was pretty much pointless drama that really shouldn't been emphasized. Perhaps, I'm being too harsh but episode 2 and 3 are nothing short of rushed products and poor development for the characters. I really don't understand the whole reboot thing.
I'm becoming dreaded of what's to come of Episode 4.
JamesYTP
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So I just had a chance to finish watching Confessions, had a very Toy Story 3 vibe to it almost...only possibly more hopeless and depressing 
. Them and the dang cliffhangers though! Eesh!!
Basically the idea is that the Digimon and the digital world have gone through a "system recovery" of sorts. The whole world has more or less been put back in it's out of the box state....seems to be kinda like when they first got there, maybe in an even earlier state.
. Them and the dang cliffhangers though! Eesh!! So it seems this "Digimon Emperor" is in fact not Ken afterall, but Jennai. Kinda makes me wonder if we'll see Daisuke, Ken and the other Adventure 02 main cast in this since they haven't appeared yet. I wonder if they're really gonna keep the partner Digimon's memory erased too...
Basically the idea is that the Digimon and the digital world have gone through a "system recovery" of sorts. The whole world has more or less been put back in it's out of the box state....seems to be kinda like when they first got there, maybe in an even earlier state.
I'm aware of what the reboot does, but I was more asking why it was a plot device in the first place. Considering the options, they poke a gaping hole into the plot generally by doing this:
02 Kids' Digimon are also being rebooted. In addition, it was revealed that the majority of the population, as of 02, received became Chosen Children. Their Digimon should also be rebooted. They either completely ignored the plot-point as they consistently done through these movie series, or literally forgot about this. Either way, it leaves a plot-hole that continues to be left unanswered unless they are waiting until the last possible movie to actually talk about this (which would overall tip the scale of stupidity).
With that said, Movie 4 was released a couple of days ago. As my discussion with Ploep, it's clear that Movie 4 was the worst of the bunch. That's saying something.
Firstly, the Sora-Biyomon scenario was overplayed, dragged out for way to long and suddenly resolved in a matter of seconds as if the entire thing was a afterthought. This was like all the complaints towards Sora's character was over-exaggeration to the brink that it justified their hatred. Sora was essentially a piss-baby who can't get what she wants and can't solved their own problems.
01 Kids as a whole either have severely brain functioning or they blatantly never asked questions of why shit is happening. Example? The fact that no one even seems to care about the fact that Meiko suddenly shows up in the Digital World without any form of explanation. They were all "Hey! You're here! Let's find your Digimon!" and that's was it. Considering that their actions throughout of the series never ask the importance ones throughout the plot, it's like I'm watching an episode of Steven Universe at this point.
Gennai licking Sora and the awkward scene where it appears that he was groping her (he was actually looking for the Digivice) was so unnecessary and stupid that it caused me to paused the video and walked away for a clear moment or two, lamenting on "Should I really watch this shit?". In addition, the scene between Meiko and Gennai was equally disturbing, if not outright stupid. What made the scene even more dumb, if not hilarious is how Sora basically stood there and let it happen, but as soon as she saw Biyomon get hurt, she pushes Gennai off of him like it was nothing. Implications is definitely not good for these scenes.
The clear notation that they are trying to filled the running time with showing the evolution sequence of each of the Digimon towards the end. It was so unnecessary that I outright skipped most of them just to on with the action already. Turned out that it was all that special to begin with.
"But but the original series did the same!" The original series was a TV series with plenty of episodes. Digimon Tri was a movie series that should have a set running time and plot development - none of this 1-2 minute long evolution should be included. Hell, Digimon: Our War Game had this and was much faster in comparison (along with better animation evolution to the boot). Finally, just because the original series did it, doesn't mean it should continue it - especially in a film series.
Himekawa's story was basically an afterthought her. The flashback sequence in the beginning was definitively shoe-horned without any buildup whatsoever as Ploep stated. As if they were all "Fuck, we ran out of shit to put in this movie. What can we include? Fuck it, just include the backstory for this character that no one actually gives a fuck about and never mention it again and the ability to make the audience care about this character with no personality whatsoever!"
The editing in this episode was horrid as shit. Whoever edited it, hell, animated this, clearly need to be fired and replaced. There were tons of scenes in the movie that left me all:
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For example. There was a scene where Sora and Biyomon landed in the desert after getting blasted away by Machinedramon (everyone survives this in their rookie forme). Sora tried to talk to Biyomon, only to get told to fuck off. Then Sora started crying, which Biyomon sees. Then immediately the next scene, with NO build up whatsoever, they were next to Meiko (who appeared out of nowhere) and tried to wake her up. What happen to Sora crying? Why did Biyomon give that reaction? Why the transition so fucking shit here?
And that's just one example. Everyone getting separated by Machinedramon was basically pointless because it was reduced into a literal slideshow. Or the transition of Sora and Meiko into the desert, than ALL of the sudden that they landed in some forest... despite no sign of desert for fucking miles. There are lots of shit that really grind my gears, but these are my general thoughts.
Movie 4 continues Tri's train of being shit. Let's see how fucked Movie 5 will be.
02 Kids' Digimon are also being rebooted. In addition, it was revealed that the majority of the population, as of 02, received became Chosen Children. Their Digimon should also be rebooted. They either completely ignored the plot-point as they consistently done through these movie series, or literally forgot about this. Either way, it leaves a plot-hole that continues to be left unanswered unless they are waiting until the last possible movie to actually talk about this (which would overall tip the scale of stupidity).
With that said, Movie 4 was released a couple of days ago. As my discussion with Ploep, it's clear that Movie 4 was the worst of the bunch. That's saying something.
Firstly, the Sora-Biyomon scenario was overplayed, dragged out for way to long and suddenly resolved in a matter of seconds as if the entire thing was a afterthought. This was like all the complaints towards Sora's character was over-exaggeration to the brink that it justified their hatred. Sora was essentially a piss-baby who can't get what she wants and can't solved their own problems.
01 Kids as a whole either have severely brain functioning or they blatantly never asked questions of why shit is happening. Example? The fact that no one even seems to care about the fact that Meiko suddenly shows up in the Digital World without any form of explanation. They were all "Hey! You're here! Let's find your Digimon!" and that's was it. Considering that their actions throughout of the series never ask the importance ones throughout the plot, it's like I'm watching an episode of Steven Universe at this point.
Gennai licking Sora and the awkward scene where it appears that he was groping her (he was actually looking for the Digivice) was so unnecessary and stupid that it caused me to paused the video and walked away for a clear moment or two, lamenting on "Should I really watch this shit?". In addition, the scene between Meiko and Gennai was equally disturbing, if not outright stupid. What made the scene even more dumb, if not hilarious is how Sora basically stood there and let it happen, but as soon as she saw Biyomon get hurt, she pushes Gennai off of him like it was nothing. Implications is definitely not good for these scenes.
The clear notation that they are trying to filled the running time with showing the evolution sequence of each of the Digimon towards the end. It was so unnecessary that I outright skipped most of them just to on with the action already. Turned out that it was all that special to begin with.
"But but the original series did the same!" The original series was a TV series with plenty of episodes. Digimon Tri was a movie series that should have a set running time and plot development - none of this 1-2 minute long evolution should be included. Hell, Digimon: Our War Game had this and was much faster in comparison (along with better animation evolution to the boot). Finally, just because the original series did it, doesn't mean it should continue it - especially in a film series.
Himekawa's story was basically an afterthought her. The flashback sequence in the beginning was definitively shoe-horned without any buildup whatsoever as Ploep stated. As if they were all "Fuck, we ran out of shit to put in this movie. What can we include? Fuck it, just include the backstory for this character that no one actually gives a fuck about and never mention it again and the ability to make the audience care about this character with no personality whatsoever!"
The editing in this episode was horrid as shit. Whoever edited it, hell, animated this, clearly need to be fired and replaced. There were tons of scenes in the movie that left me all:
[align=center][video=youtube]
For example. There was a scene where Sora and Biyomon landed in the desert after getting blasted away by Machinedramon (everyone survives this in their rookie forme). Sora tried to talk to Biyomon, only to get told to fuck off. Then Sora started crying, which Biyomon sees. Then immediately the next scene, with NO build up whatsoever, they were next to Meiko (who appeared out of nowhere) and tried to wake her up. What happen to Sora crying? Why did Biyomon give that reaction? Why the transition so fucking shit here?
And that's just one example. Everyone getting separated by Machinedramon was basically pointless because it was reduced into a literal slideshow. Or the transition of Sora and Meiko into the desert, than ALL of the sudden that they landed in some forest... despite no sign of desert for fucking miles. There are lots of shit that really grind my gears, but these are my general thoughts.
Movie 4 continues Tri's train of being shit. Let's see how fucked Movie 5 will be.
Yeah basically what Shine said. XD
The movie i was anticipating the most was the biggest let down yet.
Biyomon's attitude felt ooc, even if she was being cautious it was dragged out for too long and the way she got over it was also done very abruptly.
The beginning of the movie also came out of nowhere with not much explanation.
The animation was lacking as usual and the evolution sequences werent even done that well while they took up a lot of time (that was really unnecessary at the end)
Let's not even begin talking about the fake 'genji'. :facepalm:
Himekawa spening a good part of her life trying to get her digimon back by doing the reboot --》 goes crazy over the fact her digimon doesnt remember her because of said reboot.
As for the good parts:
Meiko's chara development, Izzy showing agumon and gomamon pictures from before the reboot, Hikari saying how the reboot was better for Gatomon and Joe being cool this movie. xD
The movie i was anticipating the most was the biggest let down yet.
Biyomon's attitude felt ooc, even if she was being cautious it was dragged out for too long and the way she got over it was also done very abruptly.
The beginning of the movie also came out of nowhere with not much explanation.
The animation was lacking as usual and the evolution sequences werent even done that well while they took up a lot of time (that was really unnecessary at the end)
Let's not even begin talking about the fake 'genji'. :facepalm:
Himekawa spening a good part of her life trying to get her digimon back by doing the reboot --》 goes crazy over the fact her digimon doesnt remember her because of said reboot.
As for the good parts:
Meiko's chara development, Izzy showing agumon and gomamon pictures from before the reboot, Hikari saying how the reboot was better for Gatomon and Joe being cool this movie. xD
JamesYTP
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- Nov 23, 2015
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I see, haven't had a chance to watch the 4th one but that does sound disappointing. Interesting fact about editing in animation though, typically the editor's only job is to put the finished scenes together. Unlike in live action work where you have a lot of different angles and a lot of footage to work with and decide from in animation almost nothing is left on the cutting room floor. The timing of when each shot ends and cuts to the next and when and how scenes transition is typically decided by the "timer" (in America anyway), whose job is to take the storyboard and make note of how long each shot will be and the details of an animation (how many steps this character takes and at what second they take them etc.) and in some cases the director will too. Typically they'll form an animatic (video storyboard) before the animation is started. How this works in Japan I don't quite know though, voice actor performances dictate a lot of that here too as they record right after the storyboard is done here usually, but in Japan they don't until the animation is totally done.