Discussion on the upcoming movie. This will contain spoilers so if you don’t want to be spoiled, don’t look in this thread.
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Vegetto said:This probably the first movie that honestly, blew me away. I was completely floored the other night when I first saw it, and have now seen it a second time. So many things to talk about, which I'll jump in on depending on the discussion.
I suppose I'll start with the only real criticism I can give on the film: the female Avengers assembling moment. Which don't get me wrong: I actually liked the idea of it and it still was a great moment.
However, I personally felt like the actual reasoning and execution of it was just so awkward and forced. A massive battle is raging on for about a mile wide in every direction, but all the female Avengers assemble from what they're doing with no actual reasoning (IE, Wasp abandoning Ant Man in the van doesn't really make sense), to help Captain Marvel in a situation where she actually needs zero help considering she can casually stomp Thano's entire army, along with Thanos himself.
Infinity War did it better, where Black Widow and Okoye coming to aid Scarlett Witch in the middle of the fight was definitely more believable, injecting the feminism into the plot without trying to force some ulterior goal. Felt kind of like another example of a horrible execution in fanfiction, like getting Batman and Superman to stop hating one another and become somewhat friendly over their mom's having the same first name.
That being said, my actual reaction to the moment wasn't negative. It was more, "uhh, alright, idk why this is happening but I'll roll with it.", and then was definitely forgotten with the bit involving Pepper, Valkyrie and Scarlett Witch blasting Thanos with a triple energy beam that was a glorious call back to their male "counterparts" blasting Ultron in Age of Ultron. That moment was flawless in execution.
So yeah, thought I'd leave that on the table, given that I personally have no idea where to start with all the glorious things this movie did other than the one "negative" I saw. Probably one of my favorite moments would have to go to Howard Stark getting parenting advice from Tony, who gets to indirectly bond with his dad.
LoopyPanda said:Loki and Vision are certainly dead for good though, although there is potential to chase an alternate timeline movie for Loki with the Tesseract but idk... a multiverse MCU with multiple parallel universes seems to work better for comics rather than movies
ShineCero said:Disney+ did announced a series of alternate Loki doing his adventures throughout the universe. I wonder he'll be a key factor in Doctor Strange 2 :think:
Endgame has pretty much set the standard. I wonder if the next crossover event will surpassed this one?
LoopyPanda said:I have high expectations for Thor and the Guardians of the Galaxy storyline...
I saw some fans say it was a bit disappointing the way they kind of un-did Thor's development in Ragnarok overtime with IW and EG, but in all fairness I feel like it's necessary to have at least one hero end up like he did in the 5-year gap. Poor dude basically collapsed himself in a pit of depression because all the failure culminated into making him think he's completely worthless: his brother was strangled in front of him right after facing their evil sister, dozens of Asgardians died, he watched almost all his friends disintegrate and the other 4 billion people on Earth went with them; all because he simply used his opportunity 'incorrectly' and couldn't kill Grimace the Mad Titan the first time. And clearly, beheading him 5 years later in some random space hut didn't make him feel any better about it because at that moment they thought there was no possibility of reversing everything now that their timeline's stones were gone.
But the movie tied off basically every loose end that needed to be ended before seeking a different direction with the MCU. Not really sure how they can top off their own thing... how much of a grander scale can we go after IW and Endgame!? lol
If you read the comics, don't tell me because that's no fun
The next crossover event will be difficult to surpass this one. For one, a decade of movies, a story line eleven years long, and character deaths that took the finale from merely "awesome" to "amazing." Infinity War and Endgame would not be as memorable without the deaths of Loki, Vision, Peter Parker, Thanos, Iron Man, Captain America, and Thanos. Real, lasting impact is what made it so poignant.
I'm lowkey kinda sick of "if you want this specific content you'll have to pay for yet another subscription to an entirely different service because we forgot people can and will go back to pirating things if companies decide to dismantle the universal streaming platform known as Netflix for the sake of making more money" so I won't really keep up with any spinoff shows being hosted on Disney+. I'll just torrent it like everything else by the end of 2020 once Netflix gets gutted and left with D-tier movies