Why are people bad or evil?

Nick

Green Jacket
As the name suggests, we will be discussing the question of 'Why are people bad?' with the interchangeable 'evil' included.

Please only say one answer at a time to maximize the variability in answers.

Feel free to use any explanation you want, just try to keep it relevant.

So, let's begin, Why are people bad or evil?
 

Grey Star

Red Jacket
Free will.
 

Nick

Green Jacket
Can you go a bit more in depth with your answer there Grey?
 

LoopyPanda

Black Jacket
Was this intended to go in the Plaza? Because that's probably why you got a one-liner of an answer.

I could use a quote I remember hearing some time back: There are good people who do bad things, and that's bad. But it isn't as bad if it was a one-time mistake and they learned from it. But when a good person does bad things over and over and over with no remorse... then that is a higher degree of wrong because you start to lose the capacity to be a good person. Innumerable things could allow this to happen; poor self reflection, inability to listen to others's opinions of you, narcissism, loss of empathy over time, overuse of excuses to your toxic behaviors.

 It's a less cynical explanation I prefer to use.
 

Nick

Green Jacket
I like that answer, it fits well in my eyes.
 

LoopyPanda

Black Jacket
This thread has been moved to the Philosophical hub to fit on the forum a bit better. Any low-effort post from this point onward are subject to removal by a moderator.
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What makes someone evil is much more difficult to say. Nobody is born evil. Nobody wakes up one morning and says, "I feel genocidal today!" That's a much more complex sequence of events that distort someone's morals/view of the world over probably longer periods of time, that go unchecked or unpunished. That, or the person deludes themselves into believing their actions are right and just when in reality it becomes criminal behavior that they perceive to be doing the world a favor. They don't believe they make mistakes.
 

ShineCero

Administrator
Staff member
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This video related to the topic at had. I can agree with Loopy that nobody does not normally wake up today and be all:

"Hmm, I feel like killing today" and proceed to commit horrendous crimes on the whim. 

One can be force into a position where they felt like killing is an option. Just like this man in the video. He flat out tried to paint a picture for the world to see why he's doing this. Yet, all it comes across as some psychopath who simply out to kill because he simply felt like it. He claims that he lost everything (yet evidence shows otherwise), but it seems that he's itching for fame. Can people be born evil? It all really depends. I think it's possible. Maybe the man did had a shitty life or the man is insane because the world owes him something in his eyes. 

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Nick

Green Jacket
Myself, being a religious person, believe that it really can be broken down into the 7 deadly sins, now weather you believe in such things or not, you cannot deny their existence within people. The worst of all of them, in my opinion is greed, as it tends to lead to all of the others in one way or another, though it can be suggested that that applies to other ones similarly. I have seen people who cannot function properly without personal gain and the hoarding of obsolete material things, and the wasting of others charity for personal reasons. Murderers likely are too strung on the sin of War, also recognizable as that of extreme lust for violence.

Basically, if you were to break it down into a formula, I feel that every crime can always be broken down into those sins, otherwise, there is just no thought or basis behind someones actions.
 

Alzoru

Green Jacket
Allow me to give my two cents. I firmly believe in the following: All or most humans are inherently good and want to do what they believe is right. Part of the problem is that there are varying ideals on what is "right" or "wrong" between various cultures leaving no clear answer for us.  This is only part of the answer though. Another thing said is that it is circumstances and things that turn people sour. Certain events and such can lead people down a dark path. Abuse in particular is known to cause good people to go bad or at the very least leave them bitter, jaded, untrusting, and/or a nervous wreck. I speak from experience as I've been emotionally abused for most of my childhood and have become basically all 4 of the above, but I desperately try to be a good person despite that. As pointed out before, the 7 deadlies can play a part as well, but we only start to harbor those because of the things that happen to us. In conclusion, it comes down primarily to two things: Values dissonance and circumstances that befall the individual. Of course, mental diseases can play a part as well, but even a sociopath or psychopath can, in theory, still be a good person.
 
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