Someone that Never Loses vs. Someone that Always Wins

[ShineCero]

Both of their abilities ("always winning" for one and "never losing" for the other) get into a fist fight.
Both of their abilities are reality warping hax.
Who wins the fist fight?

 

[Grey Star]

Is it possible for there to be a way for one to win and the other not lose?

 

[~ Z ~]

The guy who never loses would win this fight. It's word play.

The guy who never loses would win this fight. 
The guy who always wins would have won a loss. Theoretically, winning a loss is still winning something.

Next. :fan:

 

[Grey Star]

That's, a really clever intepretation Z.

 

[LoopyPanda]

It's a manipulation of semantics, is all, nothing super shocking. So I'll take that, and raise you with a manipulation of statistical probability!

For me, I think it's a draw since it's a death battle between 2 people who operate on absolutes. One guy always wins, so statistically, he has a 100% success rate and a 0% failure rate. The other guy never loses. Depending on where he decides to put his chances to the test, he has a 0% failure rate, but his success rate can fluctuate.

In a situation where no other participants fight, I think this one would end in a draw-- both of them definitely have a 0% failure rate. So if one decides to throw a max-power punch at the other who is throwing a max-power punch, they have a high probability of landing either a fatal hit or a KO-hit. The fact that the other guy has a theoretically non-100% chance of winning is negligible. So, they knock each other out, or they both die in that regard, resulting in a draw. (A 1 to 1 if you will).  And let's just assume one warps reality to make both of them go max power to settle this.

 (inb4 "NO, U HAVE TO PICK 1 WINNER")